Thursday, June 22, 2006

New Abortion Limits

(BBC Online)
I totally agree with Cardinal Murphy O'Connor's comments, and my views on abortion have been mentioned before on this blog. Put basically, if a child can survive outside the womb at twenty-twenty-two weeks, then why should it be aborted!
I would expand on this, but I have to go into work shortly, but I welcome your views with regard to a discussion on this.


C4' said...

All very true Paul. Abortion is murder no matter how you dress it up.

Paul Burgin said...

Well I strongly disagree with it, but I am also aware that many who want to abort are in a desperate state who should be treated with sympathy, compassion, understanding, unconditional love, and help where possible and where conscience allows.

Barry Beef said...

21st century and ppl are still anti-abortion? being religious might give u a good after-life but it certainly clouds ur judgement in this life.

Paul Burgin said...

Does it! Being pro life is not just a religious thing, a lot of secular people are as well!
It is simply recognising the sanctity of human life and trying to preserve it wherever possible!

Neil Harding said...

Paul, the facts are that atheists are overwhelming in their support for a woman's right to choose, their judgement is unclouded by such irrational fantasies as souls and god inspired speciesism.

It is the religious lobby that drives opposition to abortion. This time limit thing is just a disingenous wedge in their drive for abolition.

Although it is true that a small percentage of foetuses at 22-24 weeks can survive they are usually terribly handicapped.

There are only 154 abortions a year carried out in this country at 24 weeks. Those who do have abortions late are generally the most vulnerable women (mental health issues, poor, uneducated, underage etc.) This law would just be punitive to these women and serve no purpose. Already those that can afford it, go abroad to Spain to get abortions after 24 weeks and this would accelerate if we drop the limit. Forcing women to have children they don't want is just not advisable. What about the quality of life for the children who have such parents (they are unlikely to prove good parents)?

We already have some of the strictest abortion laws in the EU (finding 2 doctors who are not religious bigots is getting more difficult) and far stricter than the USA, where it is on demand.

It is safer for a woman to have an abortion than have the child.

Post abortion depression is rare and in any case is usually caused by the stigma and guilt placed on a religious woman by religious propaganda and indoctrination. Women are much more likely to be depressed having a child than having an abortion (especially if it is a child they didn't want). The typical reaction of most women who have abortions is relief.

None us want to see abortions (or irresponsible or underage pregnancies). Holland have shown the way to reduce these things through education without the need for stricter abortion laws.

Paul Burgin said...

The thing is Neil, that at 22 weeks, handicapped or not, a life is a life. If we start making judgements like that where do we stop?
As for going elsewhere for an abortion, well that is sad and must be discouraged. But should we legalise hard drugs just because another country might have more liberal views. Or if murder was okay in another country, is that a reason to legalise it here!
As for depression, the mother can always send the child for adoption!As for depression everything must be done for the mother as well as the unborn child. However I am not prepared to see one suffer at the expense of the other!