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Saturday, December 16, 2006
Racist A'list
For those who are quick to slate 18 Doughty Street (and there are some out there), perhaps they would care to see this little gem, where Michael Ediae asserts that Cameron's A'list is racist.
This doughty street thing is Tory TV. Of course like the Sun they can't make it too obvious, but the slant is always there.
This is a poor example anyway because this guy was attacking the 'A' lists from a right wing perspective shared by the people who run the show.
These right wingers hate anything that is 'affirmative action'. And of course in a perfect world with no discrimination (or with the introduction of PR) they wouldn't be needed.
But the alternative is accepting that women and ethnic minorities are not in parliament because they are not good enough. Not even the Tories would openly say that 9% of their MPs being female is how it should be, or whatever fraction of a percent of black and Asian MPs they have is ok. In these circumstances you have to accept corrective measures.
If you believe that men and women and ethnic minorities are equally capable of being MPs then you have to accept that women and ethnic minorities are being in some way discouraged or prevented from becoming MPs. Now obviously the best way to address this is to stop the discrimination in the first place but there is also an inertia to overcome and as a temporary measure this justifies shortlists (because they work quickly). You could wait for ever for change without them.
Still a load of crap. Poor image, bad sound quality, complete non-entity speaking (who the f*ck is Michael Ediae).
Dullty Street has yet again proved itself to be the home of people who have such an overinflated ego that they seriously beleve people give a toss what they think (and I'm sorry that I have to include you in that bunch).
May I draw your attention to a post on my blog which I think sums up the arguement from the anti-Dullty Street camp.
I can see your point, but the fact that Cameron's A'list is up for criticism, (whatever the motives) from a cross-section of political creeds and parties, helps to add weight in pointing out how vulnerable and out of touch Cameron's reforms are. Plus if David Cameron cannot carry a certain proportion of his Party with him, then he is in some trouble! Lucan, I don't care about who Edaie is more to the point as to what he is saying. I did read the post you mentioned and I disagree to a point. Doughty Street doesn't have to be as big or succesful as Sunday AM or The Daily Politics as to the fact that a cross section of people with varying political opinions watch the programme (whether they be ten people or ten thousand) and therefore if there is a chance to put Labour's case across then the likes of Kerron and myself will do so, ego doesn't come into it.
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This doughty street thing is Tory TV. Of course like the Sun they can't make it too obvious, but the slant is always there.
This is a poor example anyway because this guy was attacking the 'A' lists from a right wing perspective shared by the people who run the show.
These right wingers hate anything that is 'affirmative action'. And of course in a perfect world with no discrimination (or with the introduction of PR) they wouldn't be needed.
But the alternative is accepting that women and ethnic minorities are not in parliament because they are not good enough. Not even the Tories would openly say that 9% of their MPs being female is how it should be, or whatever fraction of a percent of black and Asian MPs they have is ok. In these circumstances you have to accept corrective measures.
If you believe that men and women and ethnic minorities are equally capable of being MPs then you have to accept that women and ethnic minorities are being in some way discouraged or prevented from becoming MPs. Now obviously the best way to address this is to stop the discrimination in the first place but there is also an inertia to overcome and as a temporary measure this justifies shortlists (because they work quickly). You could wait for ever for change without them.
Still a load of crap. Poor image, bad sound quality, complete non-entity speaking (who the f*ck is Michael Ediae).
Dullty Street has yet again proved itself to be the home of people who have such an overinflated ego that they seriously beleve people give a toss what they think (and I'm sorry that I have to include you in that bunch).
May I draw your attention to a post on my blog which I think sums up the arguement from the anti-Dullty Street camp.
http://thelordlucan.blogspot.com/2006/12/bloody-18-dullty-street.html.
Neil
I can see your point, but the fact that Cameron's A'list is up for criticism, (whatever the motives) from a cross-section of political creeds and parties, helps to add weight in pointing out how vulnerable and out of touch Cameron's reforms are. Plus if David Cameron cannot carry a certain proportion of his Party with him, then he is in some trouble!
Lucan, I don't care about who Edaie is more to the point as to what he is saying.
I did read the post you mentioned and I disagree to a point. Doughty Street doesn't have to be as big or succesful as Sunday AM or The Daily Politics as to the fact that a cross section of people with varying political opinions watch the programme (whether they be ten people or ten thousand) and therefore if there is a chance to put Labour's case across then the likes of Kerron and myself will do so, ego doesn't come into it.
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